Hi
I am new here. I don't have even yet canoe. But Im going to get one as soon as learn which one is the best for my need.
lets start then. I'm looking for canoe which:
can be use for up to 3 people,
can be mount on the car
can be used for fishing
can be used for sailing
has to be as light as possible
also I'm looking for sailing rigs to mount on canoe sometimes.
I found on us websites.
sping creek sailing rig:
http://store.springcreek.com/Sail-Kits/Sail-Kits-c673/
and
http://www.castlecraft.com/sail_rigs.htm
the question is which one is better and is there in uk I can get something similar?
Not quite sure how this enquiry went unanswered: a fair few responses to Koks on other threads... but none on canoe-sailing!
FWIW, if only for the benefit of others who might come across this old thread: the
Open Canoe Sailing Group is THE place to look for advice on sailing a canoe... closely followed by
Solway Dory - a commercial concern, but run by enthusiasts who put helping people discover canoe sailing above selling anything, and with an exemplary and extremely informative website that is THE place to start for anyone wanting to home-build a rig.
I don't see enough information in this thread to recommend a specific hull. The discussions in other threads seemed to move immediately (for no obvious reason) to Prospectors... which are sailable, but no more-so or less-so than many other hull designs.
FWIW, Keith Morris (the Level 5 coach who wrote the BCU handbook on canoe sailing) was at Coniston last weekend paddling an Old Town Penobscot 186 - bigger brother to the
Penobscot 17, which is arguably the one classic Rx open canoe design to have come from that manufacturer, and which might be worth considering if going 3-up really must be a consideration.
Thanks for your input "SnowGoose"...
I'll defend the lack of response by saying there are many, MANY facets of paddlesport, and here on C-WaV we (as you, yourself, already know..
), will not give information about areas of the sport that we have no experience....
As you quite rightly point out, there is a huge difference between what we would call "open canoe sailing" and what the Open Canoe Sailing Group would call sailing....
From your post it sounds like you're an avid and active member of the OCSG, if so I'd request that you post some TT's and perhaps become a more active member, shareing knowledge, tips and tricks is all good, if done in the right way.....
Cheers
Red.
Nice response, but no need to "defend" C-WAV: it's a great forum, and I was just plugging a gap that came to my attention
FWIW, my background is first and foremost in paddling, and primarily on rivers: I've toyed with open water paddling and with sailing assorted craft for ~30 years.... but direct anyone seriously interested in canoe sailing to the OCSG and Solway Dory for the simple reason that the veterans there know far more than I do about that game.
One thing though: I can see why some paddlers see a gap existing between what a paddler considers to be sailing a canoe and what the OCSG term "canoe sailing" (because dedicated sailing canoes with outriggers and rudders are not really paddle-craft)... but the OCSG is home to folk with a paddling background as well as to folk with a sailing background - and we aren't the only members who sail a conventional open canoe, ideally with the paddle in our hand!
Sailing well with a decent rig is no harder than failing to sail effectively with what is essentially an overgrown flag: the key difference is in aspiration, not complexity! A small Solway Dory Expedition Rig and a tiny (really tiny) clip on leeboard allows REAL sailing (including upwind)... and the rig will pack away and stow without intruding on everyday paddling... but when you are out on open water in a good blow, that rig (like any REAL sailing rig) give you a means to get from A to B even in conditions where paddle power starts hitting limits (including upwind in Force 6+ winds).
I appreciate that most on this board are first and foremost river paddlers (which is why I tend to lurk rather than post), but I'd encourage all concerned to take a more measured view of the OCSG: when you hit open water, the
paddlers within the OCSG (which isn't all the members) are the equivalent of your 5* white water paddlers and and high level coaches on rivers - good folk to learn from!
Fantastic.....
We're certainly not all River paddlers...! And as I've said, all forms of Paddlesport are more than welcome here.....
Look forward to your TT's and posts....
Cheers
Red.
Fantastic dude,
This is really very nice post, actually i am going to built the sailing at my home, so my pleasure to have this post.